You’re a very funny writer whose books often talk about
the Holocaust.
I think a lot of people have been perplexed by how you can
be funny when writing a book in which the Holocaust features. The crucial
thing to remember is that I’m writing about contemporary life
and contemporary life is very funny. One of my saving graces is I have
a sense of humor and in particular I can laugh at myself. One of the
miracles of my mother and father living through the Holocaust and being
the recipient of barbaric behavior and witnessing indescribable atrocity
was the fact that they were able to laugh afterwards. I’m not
saying they rolled out of Auschwitz and killed themselves laughing,
but my Dad in particular retained his sense of humor. When I was very
young and he laughed I used to think everything was okay with the world.
If you’re alive, your life has to have a lot of joy and a lot
of humor. So I don’t think there’s a conflict.
What was your family’s experience of the Holocaust?
Both my parents were born and grew up in Lodz in Poland. My
father was a child of a wealthy family and my mother was the child
of a relatively poor family. They were both, like all the Jews in Lodz,
imprisoned in the Lodz Ghetto by the Nazis. They were there for almost
five years. They were on the very last transport out of the Lodz Ghetto
to Auschwitz.
My father had three brothers and a sister, and my mother had
four brothers and three sisters, and they each had uncles and aunties
and nephews and nieces and cousins as well as having a mother and father
and grandparents. Everyone they were related to in the universe was
murdered, except for one brother of my father’s. Growing up I
felt that the dead were more present in our house than the living.
So I knew when I was growing up in Australia, where my parents
migrated with me in 1948, that we were different, and not just because
we didn’t speak the language. We were different because of what
we had experienced. And I felt it was we who had had the experience,
not just my mother and father. I felt I had absorbed it by osmosis
in the way children can absorb what has happened to their parents.
You Gotta Have Balls celebrates food while exploring
women’s complex relationship to it.
I’ve written about the good part of my mother’s life in You
Gotta Have Balls. She was a fabulous cook. She would make flowers
out of radishes and butter. Sun baking and cooking were two things
that gave my mother peace. I started cooking from a very early age
and had my own restaurant when I was about nineteen. My younger daughter
is a very good cook. Making food central to this book was a way of
making a connection with the pleasurable and joyful aspects of the
past.
The meatball recipes in the book are contemporary variations
on what was my mother’s basic klops (Yiddish for meatloaf) recipe,
the same ingredients and the same proportions. more
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